You who have ears to hear will hear!

You who have eyes to see will see!

You who have a heart to love will love!

Welcome!  We are glad to be able to speak with you at this time.  As we have told you before, there are always many more present in this room than you can see.  You may call them entities, spirits, frequencies, or energies, but there are many more than those of you who sit in the chairs around the room.

The space in which you sit is very crowded with those who have made the transition, or passed-on so to say.  Some of them are present to help each of you be more clear in your process of hearing and seeing.  They can help you to see and hear with your heart and your whole energy system, not with just your ears and eyes.  Others are here to observe.  Their purpose in observing is to identify with each of you in some way that would represent their struggling, or moving through issues that were theirs before passing.  In this way, they can complete their unfinished business as they observe how you deal with issues similar to those they faced but failed to overcome.  By observing you and your thoughts and reactions, they can learn and move on into the light.

As you work with these disincarnates, you will find that you become ever more sensitive to energies other than your own individuated energies.  After all, you are all one.  Even those who have transitioned are part of you also because everything that is in your universe is part of each of you.  But in your individuation from the Great One, there are many who have transitioned in recent years with unfinished business.  Because you are experiencing yourselves to be in life form at this period of time that you call the great shift.  There are those who have transitioned with unfinished business who must clean up and clear out and move forward also so they may ascend.

We hope we are making this clear to you that there are those here with you just to be near you.  Not to occupy you.  Not to attach to you.  Not to cause you harm.  But to observe.  Those observing you will most likely have the same unfinished issues that you are in the process of resolving or releasing.  We say this to you so you will understand that when you have the sensation of a presence that there will be no harm to you as a result.  There are those who are present to help, and those who are present to observe and to learn.  As each of you is a teacher for each other, you are also teacher for many who have transitioned.  Do you understand why that is, and why it is particularly important at this time?  As the veil grows thinner, each of you will have a sense of these presences, so simply allow it to be and know that you are teachers for many.  Bless yourselves for such.  Do not be humble, because it is a necessary that each of you serve not only each of you in life form, but also those who are not in life form, but still in life. Do you understand?  This is very important for you to learn, so are there any questions about this?

Q: So while they are in spirit, they are observing what we experience?

A: Exactly

Q: How does that help them overcome difficulties in spirit?

A: Many of you humans experience your transition before your issues have been resolved.  As such, you must resolve those issues and release them in order to move on.  By your commitment to your own process and your resolution to finish your own unfinished business, those in spirit who have similar issues identify with you and as you resolve your issues, they can do the same.

Q: Are they aware that the soul reincarnates back on the earth repeatedly until they overcome those issues?

A: Yes, but at this particular time their issues represent an accumulation of non-creative frequencies from 26,000 years of the last cycle and must now complete order to move into the next cycle.

Q: What is the new cycle called?

A: The new cycle is the next 26,000 year cycle and is represented already by the presence of energies of the fourth dimension and the fifth dimension at the same time on your planet.  They are already grounded.  You are already in the fourth and fifth dimension at the same time.  The dimensional frequencies relate precisely to the chakra system.  Because you are in the fourth and fifth dimension at this time, and because of the energies that prevail on your planet, you have the opportunity to expand the heart, and to expand the fifth chakra which has to do with communicating with impeccable integrity.  Those two chakras work together.  One cannot function without the other.  This is why these two dimensional realms have moved onto your planet at the same time almost as one.

Q: Which chakras are they?

A: The fourth and fifth.

Q: Can you point out where they are located?

A: The fourth chakra is your heart chakra.  There is no way to put it into words because your chakras are not in your physical form.  They are in your full energy system. Your chakras are multi-dimensional in the same way that each of you is multi-dimensional.

Q: How many energy bodies do we have at one time?

A: You do not have any energy bodies, you have a unified energy system.  You are already unified.  The energies that prevail on your planet at this time are sparking and causing to become operational and expand the energies of your fourth and fifth chakras.  This allows you to begin to perceive yourself as not a bunch of spare parts, but as a unified energy system.  You are multi-dimensional in the totality of your individuation from the One.

Q: Who may I ask is speaking?

A: It is Irsha speaking to you and we are five. We usually do not tell you specifically who we are because it is not our intention for any of you to make a guru out of the lady.  Our purpose is to inform and to empower.

Q: Do you say that the people who have transitioned are in form at this time?

A: No they are not in form as you are in form.  They do not still dwell within the earth space suit which is what we like to call your body.   We call it the earth space suit simply because it allows your spirit to be in life and to survive on the earth. You might call them in higher planes of existence, but it doesn’t matter what you call them because your words are meaningless anyway.  If you will listen, if you will hear, we attempt to convey a true meaning through the frequencies we transmit. Those who have transitioned still have some form in the spiritual sense, but they are not in earth space suits.  Before they can go on, their unfinished business must be completed.  And the same is true for each of you.  It is difficult at this time to use words, because the vocabulary that you humans use belongs to the old cycle.  Your understanding of a words meaning is limited to your ability to understand in the old cycle.  You are not in the new cycle.  This is why your master Jeshua said to you, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”  This does not mean your physical ears, but speaks of your total ability to apprehend and comprehend the reception of the frequencies of the words that we choose to use.  So open, so you may hear the true meaning that we attempt to convey to you.  We have also told you repeatedly that it is time for you to create a new vocabulary that is more in keeping with your ability apprehend and comprehend at this time.  You are now in two new ranges of frequencies, forth and fifth dimensional, which activate your heart and your throat.  This increases compassion and instills a true understanding of  love.  It also increases your integrity, first of all with impeccable integrity  with self, and then with all others.  Now is the time for these to expand and unfold and become operational.  Listen to the words that we choose to use, and be open to hear the meaning of those words.  Be receptive to the frequencies that the words float upon and what the words symbolize.  Now is the time for each and every one of you to truly “get it!”  Forget everything you know that belongs to the old cycle, most of which was what you call “head stuff.”  Now it is time to move into the heart and into true apprehension and comprehension of that which IS in order to understand the totality of love.  Love is not just a good feeling.  It is all.  Love is God and God is all.  There is nothing that is not God.  All is God beginning to realize him/her self.

Each of you has a part to play.  Each of you therefore is God.  The opening of your energy system, the expansion of your heart, the ability to look within and see what’s there and bring it forth is part of this process.  Look within with impeccable integrity, and it does not matter what you find when you look within, there is nothing that is wrong or right.  ALL JUST IS!  And for purpose.  We have said this to you many times, and we say it again because it amuses us to say this because the image it invokes is humorous for to us to picture.  If you cannot get something, if you cannot get a mule to move, you hit it over the head with a 2x4.  You humans hit yourselves over the head, or in the heart, or in the spirit, many times over the head with the proverbial 2x4 because this gets your attention and you must notice what is going on.  Once you are aware, then you have a choice to shift, or change, or whatever.  Sometimes what you would term wrong choices are not wrong choices at all, but you hitting yourself over the head with a 2x4.  When you experience pain for yourself it gets your attention.  Then you have the opportunity to choose differently.  So, do not fault yourself when you hit yourself over the head with a 2x4, you get your OWN attention.  You create pain for yourself.  Then, you have a choice; you can either blame someone else or you can take responsibility for it yourself.  If you take responsibility for it yourself, then you have created for yourself a grand opportunity to discover another piece of self.  Therefore there is to be no judgement or guilt when you do such.

Congratulate yourself for your courage required to do such a thing, then choose differently.  There are no victims.  No one else can hit you over the head but yourself.  That is the teaching of your master Jeshua.  The crucifiction was a set up.  He agreed to play the primary role in this set up, to be betrayed, to be tried, to be crucified and experience it all with grace and courage, and then to resurrect.  He also said to you many times, “That which I do, you shall do, and more.”  So in many of your life experiences over the last 26,000 years, maybe in all of them, you have been crucified in some way either physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually for your beliefs.  And then you either choose to be the victim of the ones who crucified you, or to resurrect, to rise above, and to go on.  And that is the truth of the teaching, “There are no victims!”  

The play was played out in such a graphic and dramatic manner, that you could not miss it.  So honor yourselves.  Each of you is God.  Each of you is.  There is nothing that is external to you.  There is nothing that is more powerful than you.  There is nothing that is more loving and filled with love than you.  Each of you is a master, and now is the time for you to release that which is crying to be released form your last 26,000 years of numerous lifetimes so you can move on clean and clear within.  This is the time, and it can happen very rapidly.  When you experience a releasment, allow it even if it requires hitting yourself over the head with a 2x4 so to speak, allow it.  And honor yourselves for having chosen to do so.

REMEMBER THIS, there is no such thing as right or wrong.  Everything just is and it’s all for the purpose of discovering who you truly are, and why you are.  Because you have agreed to be in life form once more on the planet during this window of time, this time of the great shift of the ages.  You are to honor yourselves for the courage required to agree to have a lifetime in this trying period of time.  Each of you is an energy life form of the greatness of God.  Each of you is a change agent.  Be that!  And don’t be it false humility.  Be it with honor for self and all others, because each of you is part of everything that does exist.  Here you sit in your bodies, in your earth space suits, yet the multidimensional you is a twelve-dimensional life form in the totality of your individuation, the totality of your being, in you individuated self from the whole, from the Great One.  Each of you is.

Each of you is a being, a master, and you are in the process of discovering it to be so.  So please do not say “I am a master in training.”  Say instead, “I am master, and I am in the process of discovering that it is already so.  In my discovery process, it  sometimes requires that I hit myself in the head, so to speak.  Sometimes my discovery process is dredging up what needs to be released.  And sometimes in my discovery process I know that I am already a being of unconditional love.”  That is not a choice by the way, you already are it.”  Love is a condition of being, a state of being.  It is not a choice.  You ARE God, and God created all that exists.  You exist.  Each of you has a part to play in the realization of God and in the expansion of God, and in the expansion of the your solar system, galaxy, and the universe.

There will come a time when your universe will implode through a black hole and continue to expand, and expand, and expand.  Please “get it” who you are, so you can BE it.  And don’t be in false humility.  We say this to you all the time, yet we still see that many of you are in such a state of being.  Humility as you humans practice it is a deeply imbedded programming by those who wish to control you, and from times you allowed yourselves to be controlled.  It is an endless litany of self negation.  “I am not good enough.”  “I am not pretty enough.” “I am not smart enough.”  “I do not deserve.....on and on and on.  It is an endless litany.  True humility is awe as you |get it” as to who you really are.  That is not ego.  Ego is the same as false humility, simply a different way to express it.  “I do not believe in myself.”  “I am not smart enough.” etc.  But if I tell the world how grand I am, and they believe me, then perhaps I can believe it myself.  That’s the truth of ego.  True humility is from a point of power within yourself that acknowledges who you are and that this is awesome.  This is wondrous.  So be in true humility.  We have more to say, but it will be in response to your questions. 

Q: Who is the solemn master for this planet?

A: To answer that in the way you want it answered, would require using terms and understandings that belong to the old cycle. It is somewhat difficult to answer that question in the way you have asked it, but let us answer this way.  All that exists is multi-dimensional. There are numberless dimensions in your universe as a whole, yet each of you in the totality of your being, beyond the twelve-dimensional self-individuated self, is part of that whole.  To answer you in the way you ask would imply that you are separate from the all-ness that does exist.  It is now time for each of you to begin to experience yourself as part of all.  There is no separation.  There is no one that is in charge of your planet.  Each of you is in charge of your planet, and it is now time for you to own that.  It is now time for each of you to acknowledge yourselves as part of that all-ness.  If you separate yourselves from that which seems to be above you, or beyond you, you limit yourself.  Are we clear.

Q: No!  If this is a planet of matter of the densest proportion, and everything is living and has atomic structure, is it true that what we call matter is evolving toward spirit?  

A: Yes, absolutely,

Q: Then the density of matter and the most dense forms that exist, like a rock for instance, how does that evolve toward spirit?

A: It evolves as you evolve.  This is what we mean when we say that each of you in life form as humans is a change agent.  As you evolve, you bring along everything that is in form with you.

Q: Then how long would that take for a rock, that does not have any proportion of energies that we have to come forth the way we are even? 

A: We cannot give you an answer regarding time, because linear time as you experience does not truly exist.

Q: How old is the earth then?

A: We cannot say that either.  Millions of years.

Q: Do you recognize the Sumat Kumara?

A: Yes, but again, that is part of each of you as well.

Q: Who is Sumat Kumara.

A: Suma Kamara is a piece of you, and you, and you (pointing).

Q: You anser in generalities.

A: No, we are very specific.  When you do as you are doing, you are separating.  It is time for each of you to begin to blend and perceive all that does exist as one.  When you give your power away to that which seems to be beyond, that’s exactly what you are doing, you are separating, and that’s the only sin.  That is what sin is, separation.  There is separation.  It is time begin to apprehend and comprehend that you are part of all that exists, and there is no separation.  There is naught that of the so called masses is, or knows, or does, that you are not  part of.  That is what you are in the process of discovering.  That’s how you become the gods that you are.  You are without limit.  There are no limitations and there is no separation.

Q: I’m aware of all that, and I have been for some time, but why am I still here, like a rock.

A: Because you need to hear what we are saying.  You need to leave behind all that which belongs to the old understanding, and move into the new understanding which is without boundaries or limits, and encompasses all potential.  Then you can bring the rocks along and so forth you see.  Each of you have had a part to play in the rock.  They are not separate either.  There is life in the rocks.  There is life in all that you can see, touch, smell, and more.  Now that you are in the process of moving into the fourth and fifth dimensional consciousness, you have the opportunity to “get it” that there is no separation.  As above, so below.  As below, so above.  Even at the very lowest of what seems to be, even the rock which is very dense.  But the rock has been created also by God, and so if you are God, then you have a part to play in the evolution, the ascension of the rock.

Q: Is that part of our confusion, that nothing is what it seems to be, or that nothing we see really exists?

A: Yes, that is exactly what we have been trying to tell you.  Nothing that seems to be, is!

Q: What does that mean.

A: it means WHAT IS...IS!   It is now necessary for you all to get out of your heads and let go of everything that seems to be, so you can begin to apprehend and comprehend more of that which truly is.  This may seem fantastic or like fantasies to you at this time, but it is real.  What is real is that which is beyond what seems to be.  When you get that, you will then begin to understand yourselves as creators.  Until then, you can not.  You create all the time unconsciously, sometimes even super-consciously (to use words).  But when you begin to get who you truly are, then you will think, and the thought will produce into manifest form whatever you desire to create.  Creation involves your entire chakra system, all twelve of them and beyond.  When you have ascended in consciousness into all twelve of your individuated chakras, you will very quickly bring in the sixth dimension, the seventh dimension; the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh and twelfth, then what you term your “star gate” will pop open and you are open to the inflow of the multi-dimensional universe.  Please, we beseech you to “get it!”  There is no separation either horizontally or vertically (to speak in terms of direction and space, etc.)  When you really get what we are saying, you will begin in a conscious way to be the gods that you are.  And let us say that there are no extra-terrestrial gods that are over you that control you.  You are them also!  There is naught to victimize you.  Naught, Nadda, Nothing.  

Q: If the earth is in the severely polluted condition that it is in, it is causing the death rate even in this country is not the 1 in 6 percent as reported , but is now approaching 1 in 2.  In the rest of the world millions are dying daily because of pollution and if we are to keep the planet safe to reincarnate into the flesh, what do we need to do to bring about change to keep it from getting worse than it already is?

A: To be attentive to your own process.  It is not for any of you to attempt to rescue any other.  It is for each of you to fully realize your potential.  In so doing, as you open you become both a receiver and a transmitter of ever higher frequencies so that your creations are beautiful, harmonious, and recognizable as creations of love.  You see, the chaos on your planet at this time is a necessary chaos.  It is hitting you over the head collectively with the 2x4.

Q: If we are creators, then we have created it have we not?

A: Indeed you have.

Q: Then we need to un-create it.

A: Absolutely.  The way you un-create it is to allow yourself to begin to own who you are.  Each of you because each of you is part of the whole.  As one recognizes, acknowledges, and chooses to be who he or she is, this has an effect on all others as well.  Because that one is receiving and transmitting at a higher frequency which infects the collective.  You could call it a divine disease.  And gradually....

Q: And gradually we may work ourselves out of it but 12 million people may die before this week is out of starvation.

A: Yes, if that is so, then 12 million people have agreed to die.  In your soul, are many aspects.  Many potential life experiences.  You do not reincarnate the same piece of yourself  over and over.  Your soul reincarnates a piece of itself.  It is a mathematical equation from source to come in a particular life experience for a particular purpose.  When that life experience has completed, it goes back into soul and has a part to play in the full realization of soul.  So you do not reincarnate as yourself, or any of you as the same every time.  You may bring back a piece of yourself that is similar in order to finish something that you did not finish here.  But NOW, you must finish.  As a result, you have over populated your earth with parallel lifetimes in order to complete the realization of your soul up to, and including, the third dimension which has just completed.

Q: Can you speak to us about the importance of love

A: Each of you is a being in the condition of love, simply because you exist.  Your life choices and your many life experiences are part of a discovery process to realize yourself as being  love if you will allow yourself to own that you are a piece of God.  Remember we said that your soul is comprised of numberless aspects, or pieces, or mathematical equations of energy that represent different lives lived..  Each of you is a piece of the larger, and the larger, and the larger, which is all God.   So you are already in the condition of love, but you are just now in the process of discovering what that’s all about.  And that’s why you are now in the fourth dimension, the dimension of the heart.  Remember the dimensional frequencies that prevail on your planet are precisely related to your own chakra system because in a sense, each of you is a universe or a planet, or however you wish to think of it.  And so you are already in the condition of love, even when you have an angry thought.  You are still in the condition of love, so don’t get all bent out of shape and say. “Ah, I had an angry thought and that’s not loving.”  That is you discovering how to be more loving.

Q: How can you describe, in terms that we can understand, the consciousness of the individuals that are present here?    

A: The fact that you are all here would tell us.  We can see it. But you are all in a condition of flux.  You are all in the same boat.  You are all in the condition of leaving behind that which WAS, in order to move into that which IS, and you don’t even know what that which is...IS.  You are moving into the void.  As you move more and more into the void, you can create harmony, beauty, and love (as you tend to perceive love).  It’s all love. Life is love. Life is God.  So therefore life is love.  You are in life, so you are in love.  You are a piece of love.  The chaos taking place on your planet at this time is a necessary chaos.  Out of the chaos comes order.  The chaos is the collective “hit over the head by the 2x4.”  It is not until it is in your face that you have an awareness.  Then you can choose to make a different choice.  So the chaos that is on your planet at this time is the emergence from 26,000 years of the last cycle.  A great deal was  imprinted into your earth that was non-creative, and that must come out.  The earth is ascending in the same way that each of you are ascending.  As all of this stuff that was imprinted into the earth comes to the surface and is in your faces, then that which is in your own subconscious also comes to the surface and you experience your turmoil.  All this chaos will result in order, and the order cannot result until the chaos is up and out, and released, transmuted, and transformed.

Q: How can we navigate that space?

A: Pay attention. We say this all the time, and we know that some of you are sick and tired of hearing that from us, but it is still the solution.

Q: Pay attention to what?

A: Pay attention to everything.  Pay attention to your responses.  Pay attention to your reactions.  Pay attention to the responses and reactions of those around you.  Pay particular attention if you have an emotional reaction, that’s something you really need to notice because then it’s yours.  When you have an emotional reaction, you humans have a tendency to make a judgement about “that guy.”  He’s bad, he’s wrong, etc.  But if you have an emotional reaction or response to what another says or does, it’s yours, not his.  It is for you to look at.  It is for you to pay attention.  It is not for you to be in judgement or guilt about.  It’s something for you to acknowledge, “Ah, that’s mine! Humm, now I can choose.”  You have a choice.  What is hidden controls you.  Anything that comes to the surface of your consciousness is no longer hidden and so it needs no longer control you, unless you are playing victim, then your perception is “It’s his fault not mine”.

Q: I guess it is very personalized, this connecting, when you talk about the heart chakra.  But I think everyone here is aware that something is happening in that area of their consciousness.    

A: You would not be here if you were not.  Behind it all, under it all, or at the core of it, is your knowing that this is the time of the shift.  The time is now for the shift to become visible, tangible.  And yet at the same time each of you is a piece of Earth.  As you sit in your “earth space suit,” you are a piece of Earth.  So you are going through the same thing that the Earth is, and the Earth is going through the same thing that each of you is.  The Earth is having earthquakes.  Each of you are having earthquakes.  The Earth is having volcanic eruptions.  Each of you are having volcanic eruptions.  The Earth is having floods.  Each of you are having floods.  Are not many or all bursting into tears for no reason, or for no reason that you can think of?   Or if you are bursting into tears for a reason you think is this, pay attention, it may really be that.  Fifth dimension, fifth chakra, impeccable integrity with self first.  Some of you are having all manner of physical symptoms.  You cannot go to sleep at night, or you go to sleep, but wake up for no reason and cannot go back to sleep.  You can say that you had an internal earthquake.  You have floods.  You have strange physical symptoms that persist perhaps for a day, or perhaps three days, or for a week and then they are gone.  And while you are having them, you think you are on the verge of dying.  All manner of changes.  All manner of symptoms.  And don’t get bent out of shape about your symptoms unless they persist.  And they won’t persist if they are simply aspects of you making a shift.  That is, unless you create them to persist.  If you food tastes change, don’t get involved in special diets.  Listen to your body, it will tell you if on this day it needs spinach, and on that day it needs meat.  “Oh, I should be eating my spinach here too.”  No, not unless your body tells you that you need spinach (for example of course).  So again we will say “pay attention.”  Notice that last week “when somebody did this to me,” or I saw this and it pushed my buttons.  Today something similar happened, but my buttons were not pushed.  Acknowledge this as evidence of having made a shift.  When you were born, you created  from the gene pool provided by both parents an earth space suit  in the womb of your mother that was perfect for your particular mathematical equation of energy, or spirit, to come in and occupy and realize itself.  Now you have moved from the third dimension to the fourth and fifth, yet you are not dying as you are coming into a new earth space suit.  So your earth space suit must many adjustments in order to accommodate these new frequencies.    

Q: If you request, they will assist you to make the necessary adjusts and help you to tolerate the change to accommodate these new frequencies.

A: Exactly, and THEY are part of you, and if you are being blasted, then speak to yourself.  Say,  “Self...”

Q: Is there a particular subject that you wanted to discuss today that you were not able to discuss.

A: This will do.  Yes there was, but it is obvious that what was brought up that needed to be discussed.

Q: But nothing has been brought up, other than vague disorder.  I challenge you to address that.  Where is there order for anyone to make change, not only for ourselves, but for all around us besides the vague disorder that you described that we just experience constantly with no order to change or correct anything?

A: As we have said to you, the vague disorder you speak of is necessary to bring into your consciousness so that you can make different choices.

Q: How does it come, other than the vague disorder that you describe?

A: You have a war on your planet.  You have pollution on your planet.  You have hungry people on your planet.  That’s not vague.

Q: No, but how do we change and correct that?

A: By changing yourself.  By allowing yourself to evolve.  It is you that changes.

Q: You mean the whole fifteen people that are here today are going to change the entire world.

A: Absolutely, it happens one by one.

Q: We have already changed.  We already know that the I AM is within us!

A: But you do not know that the I AM is within you if you continue to be in distress at this time.

Q: I am not in distress.  I just want to understand where you come from.

A: Then you are not there.

Q: Nothing has been given in order. Everything you say is disorder and vagueness.

Q: We are sorry that you do not understand.  If you will allow yourself to accept who you are, and that you are a change agent, and that you have a part to play, but it is not yours to change everyone else, only you.  But, as you change, as you shift, as you evolve, what you receive and transmit to the universe has part to play in changing others as well.  But it is not for you to attempt to change any other.  You have a knowing that it is incorrect, that it is against universal law to attempt to affect any other or make their choices for them.

Q: But this lack of food, we must affect that. But this terrible pollution from chemicals and industry, we must affect that.  If we do not do it, who will do it?

A: You each will do it as you change yourself.  It is not you as you sit in your present consciousness that we speak about.  It the totality of your being that you allow to emerge into your consciousness, or that you allow to unfold and grow into that will do it.  You are still in your head, you must move into your heart.

Q: I am not in my head.  I am in my heart.  With honesty of mind and sincerity of the heart.

A: Then why does it bother you so?

Q: Because I came here to get answers, and I have heard no answers today, only vague disorder.

A: We are sorry that you cannot understand what we are trying to convey.

Q: (New questioner) Wait, now I have come to understand after many years of study that we all, every entity on the planet, has a contract that we have agreed to, so we can progress or create a change.  As such, and even if we do not understand it, we have to honor those who chose to come into an environment of starvation and illness.  But those of those of us who have such an awareness and are concerned about such situations are like the 2x4 to the collective consciousness, so it is up to us to consciously make an effort affect changes.  The way we do that is by voting people into office for instance.  All these materialistic things are part of it too, for the material part of it is the actual physical doing, the physical creating. We as humanity cannot save the lives of those who are dying, because they chose that as part of their sacred contract.  We also have to realize that they are not dying.  They are making an ascension process, that is why they came here.  They don’t realize it, because no one consciously says “I’m going to go out and starve to death to help the planet ascend.” They don’t mentally think “I am a part of the ascension process, and I don’t want to have to go through with this.”  But their soul knows this.  So while we sit back and horrify about this stuff that is going on, it brings about a higher state of compassion, a higher state of love, and a higher awareness of the love that we already are. So we have to say to ourselves that we have to allow that process to take place because without it, the awareness is not brought forward.

A: Correct, but let us remind you this will all take place even if you do nothing.  Let us also remind you that most of the time it is most appropriate and correct to do nothing.  Each of you is part of all that does exist.  Yet, each of you is an individual or more correctly an individuated aspect of the all that does exist.  So it is for each of you it is to be concerned with that which is yours, your unfoldment.  So that ever more beings, individuals in their earth space suits, are open to receive and transmit ever higher frequencies which ultimately affect, infect, impact, those who still sleep.

Q: But the chaos is necessary is it not?.

A: Yes, it is necessary to wake you up.  Otherwise you would continue to be in the state of apathy that humankind has been in for many thousands of years.

Q: In order to grow, you have to shed your old skin.  And the planet also needs to shed its’ old skin along with every one on it?

A: Correct, and everything in nature shows you how it is. 

Q: I have a question about God.  What has come to me is that the pharaoh Ahkenatin was one of the first people that we know of to embrace the idea of one god.  He, and his idea was destroyed, then came the one god of Abraham.  Jeshua actually coming through Egypt basically brought the same ideas of Ahkenatin.  Now as we are going into this new void, and manifestation, are we taking any of this with us?

A: You are realizing it.  You are not taking it with you, you are realizing what is already there.  It was a step by step process and now you are in the process of realizing that you are all part of the whole.  There is no separation, each of you is part of that whole, each of you is part of God..       

Q: Aren’t those we see as victims part of the plan to raise the consciousness of the whole planet?

A: Correct, and many of them are part of each of you.  As we said earlier, each life experience that you have is an aspect or a piece from your soul.  Your soul is without beginning and without end.  It is whole, and it is perfect, and it’s in the condition of love.  Each life experience is for the full realization of your soul.  Because this particular time is the end of an age, your soul has many of you all on the planet, in form at the same time.  They are all different aspects of self, so if one so called victim dies, you are still alive, but the one that has left form has fulfilled his or her contract.  Suppose another person who is a parallel life of yourself, and aspect of your soul,  leaves yet you are still alive and in form yet another contract is fulfilled adding to your souls experience and yours as well, yet that person is still alive in spirit but not form. Your contract is different from these two who left, therefore you are to remain a longer time until your contract is fulfilled.  This one goes in and says “I’ll be one who drowns in a tsunami because that will open up the heart the one still here (you) and expand compassion.”  Everything has a part to play in the total picture.  So allow the transition of this one to allow your compassion to be experienced, to grow, to be noticed, “Ah, I feel compassion.”  But one is not to grieve over the other because that one fulfilled a contract and you are still here, therefore you have some more work to do and more to experience.  That is why your earth is so overpopulated at this time.  Each soul has sent in many representatives of itself in order to complete what needed to be completed by the end of the last age.  A new age has started, and when all the dust is settled (so to speak) it will be far less populated than it is now.  In the new age, the ones who come in may be five aspects from the same soul in one embodiment.  That is when you will begin to truly experience yourselves, not just intellectually, as the gods that you are.

Q: There is one central theme in every religion throughout history, that is to do unto others as we do unto ourselves.  If we identify ourselves as the one in awe, is there not will that will have to be exercised in order to bring about change in this fleshly existence?

A: It depends on what you mean by will.  If you...

Q:  (interrupting) the free will of individuals to decide what they should do.

A: Then let us suggest that you use the word choice instead of will, because...

Q: (interrupting) You say we should let millions die because we have had the access to petition our government to take the ten percent surplus that resides in all the storehouses of the G8 nations that are ruling the world and it rots there year after year and they replace it again.  But that ten percent could feed all of the world that is starving now.  By our free will should we not do this?

A: Well..

Q: (interrupting) Should we just sit back and put this big bubble around us and say “Oh, it’s so important what we are doing!”  Because that is what you are telling me in this meeting.

A: That is not what we are saying.  What we are saying is for you to move beyond that what seems to be into the greater reality.  You see...

Q: (interrupting) What about the reality in front of us with all these people dying?

A: The reality in front of you is an illusion.  It is the illusion necessary for that which is to come to evolve in..

Q: (Interrupting) How can it be an illusion when we sit here in pain.  I challenge you Irsha that you are telling those who are in this meeting pure vague disorder.  I do not see any order and neither do the others.

Q: (Many voices) That is only your opinion, etc. (argues back and forth with many).

A: We are not saying that world starvation is not important.  We are asking you to see beyond to the bigger picture.  We are asking you to think in terms of the evolution necessary at this time.  If you cannot comprehend that, we will say to you we are sorry.  If others are getting it, we are pleased.  If you are not, that’s your choice.  We cannot make you understand..

Q: (interrupting) I comprehend it entirely.  What you are saying is the fact that there must

be some order what you say while we are her

A: That is your perception, it is not.....

Q: (interrupting) There is no order to what is going on here in any way shape or form to help our brothers who are dying.

Q: (different questioner) When your contract that you made before you came on this planet in form, then you do what you think you should do to..

Q: (interrupting) What Irsha is teaching is that we should just experience and not worry about others.  That is not just my interpretation.  What is your (speaking to other questioners) interpretation of hundreds of million, literally five hundred million on the edge of starvation now and unless we do something no one is going to help.

A: What we would beseech each of you to do is think beyond that which seems to be, so you can evolve into a greater reality and manifest in it that which does not include anyone in hunger, or in sorrow, or who supposedly dies needlessly.  You see, you do not know the contract of anyone who is hungry.  You do not know the contract of each one who is dying from whatever cause.  You are presuming to know that which is not yours to know at this time.  That which is yours to know is your own unfoldment.

Q: So everyone is to know their own unfoldment and not be concerned with all others who live in mass suffering, moment by moment?

Q: (Other Questioner) You obviously have never been to where food from the US is distributed.  Great ships from the United States unload food to feed these third world people, only to loaded on trucks and taken out by people with guns who go out in the country and demand money for it.  Should we go in there overthrow those governments and take care of the people’s needs.  I don’t think so.  We have tried that, and it doesn’t work.

A: (After several simultaneous replies from questioners)  Please, please.  You obviously did not hear what this gentleman said. What we would beseech for you sir on this day is to open yourself to the greater reality, to the greater love, of that which in coming, so that which is coming can be created according to your desire at this time.  But it is not your anger that will cause this to happen..

Q: (interrupting) I have no anger...(followed by laughter from other questioners followed by more remarks).

A: Please, you need to open your ears and be one to hear.  It is not fair for those who hear to allow themselves to be disturbed by your inability to hear.  So we will not answer any more of your questions at this time.  However if you would wish for us to have a conversation with you individually in another session, we would be glad to do so.  But your energy is having it’s effect on others here that are causing reactions of “flux” we might say.

Q: (other questioner) I will say, thank you for bring up aspects of ourselves that had to be here for you to present your questions.  We honor you for that.

A: That which is our desire, our intention, is to open your hearts to higher frequencies and to hear that which is truth, not that seems to be, but that which is.  That which is cannot be perceived by your physical eyes, your physical ears, or your physical hearts.  That which is can only be perceived by your allowing your unfoldment to occur.

Would you be willing at this time to take a very deep breath (pause) and another (pause) and another.  Allow the earthquaking within you to settle.  (Speaking slow and rhythmically) Allow the earthquaking within you to cause that which you need to release to come to the surface (pause) to be owned (pause) to be honored.  Take some more deep breaths and allow yourselves, each as one to be open.  Let each breath open you.  Let the space where the earthquake occurred now begin to sprout beautiful green energy, the energy of healing the fissures that occurred at the quaking.  Allow yourselves to see a myriad of beautiful blooming flowers of many colors. (pause)  Take another deep breath.  Now allow yourselves to be very aware of those who stand behind you who also need to be healed in their quaking. (pause)  Now allow yourselves to be very aware of those who overshadow you, those who have gone beyond before you. (pause) And with another deep breath let yourself be still, receptive, and transmit into those seen and unseen a connecting link as the energy moves from one to the next to the next, to the next.  All are connected to each of you who sit in the chairs and those unseen.  Let this oneness be your experience.  Allow this experience and be grateful. (pause) Thank yourselves and thank them.  You...Them...We...are all part of the greater energy system.  So be it.

We are very grateful for this exchange because each of you allowed yourselves to see and hear a piece of yourself not formerly known.  So be it. 

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